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Very very cheap TJ issues....
« on: August 21, 2014, 09:48:45 PM »

So I finally managed to get the jeep out for a drive tonight and for 1250 I have to say its alright and apart from few issues it was good fun! Reminded me of my CJ ( the door leaks and sideways slide when wind blows) and think was worth the risk

Before I start ripping it to bits I wondered if any of you have had similar issues

Firstly the indicators. They worked perfectly then stopped, so I checked and switched on the hazards then off again and indicators worked again. I thought that was that but then the hazards would only work properly when I also put indicator on at same time?!? I'm hoping dodgy indicator stalk or relay as a git if a wiring fault

Secondly the wheels. It has big nobbly off road mud tyres on it which although would be impressive In snow it had virtually no grip out on the wet roads and tail snapped out worryingly
It may well be that I'm used to driving a computer controlled car with 275 wide tyres and not the jeep but would changing to normal wheels make a big difference or ahould I be looking at suspension and links etc for a bigger problems?

Finally oil pressure! The oil pressure is good and sits right on the mark however it doesn't fluctuate or even move when revving which compared to the CJ is quite a difference. Do other TJ drivers see any movement when mobile or is it that my old cj 4 popper is more volatile with pressure?

Cheers in advance and if problems sorted and new seats in I might make cheapfest yet
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Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2014, 10:13:43 PM »

The oil pressure gauge in mine is pretty stable too, moves around a bit with the temperature of the car, but doesn't really react to revs.

I read somewhere that Jeep dulled the oil pressure gauge's reactions on the TJ as too many customers were complaining about the erratic nature of an actual gauge.

Tyres. Mines alright in the wet on Cooper Discoverer STT mud and snows. Where are you based? I've got a spare set of wheels with road biased ATs fitted, you're welcome to stick them on and see if makes a difference if you're local enough.
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 10:16:24 PM »

oil pressure switch's are shit. Change and all will be well


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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 10:28:53 PM »

Hey yakko

I'm in ilkley north / west yorks so fairly local to you and I have a set of cj wheels spare but not sure if they are the same pattern to fit.

Hopefully it will be dry tomorrow so can see what its like in the dry however on first looks it seems to have far wider wheels than original so wonder if this is making any difference combined with the knobbled tyres
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 10:46:21 PM »

Seems like there's quite a few of us in the NW. If your CJ rims don't fit and you want to test some road tyres on it, give me a shout.

Maybe the alignment is out?
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 10:49:32 PM »

cj rims wont fit without a welder
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 10:59:37 PM »

I have some 5 on 5.5 beadlock wheels for sale, and happen to be in yerkshire :greggmo:
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 11:09:38 PM »

It's all happening in Yorkshire!!

I'm going to take it out in the dry tomorrow and have a look at the rear suspension but think I'll be ditching the wheels on it and will upload pics if someone wants off roader wheels as spares because it will only be on Tarmac for now

Pm me a price for the wheels if you are selling willo
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2014, 08:41:28 AM »

For what you want from it I think a set of all terrains will make a big difference to the handling. There's probably a bit of getting used to how to drive it in the wet as well.

Your TJ wheels are 5 on 4.5" pattern, CJ is 5 on 5.5"

The oil pressure gauge isn't a true linear gauge so minor fluctuations don't show up as much. If you are bothered or think there is something wrong try a new sender.
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....Awaiting recovery!!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2014, 09:51:39 AM »

First breakdown of the v v cheap one

Driving to work stop for the traditional Friday morning sarnie and won't move

Start it again and set off down the road to find the front left caliper is pretty much stuck fast and obviously I am exact center between home and work so time for my breakdown to pay for itself

My cj had terrible sticking brakes but surely they are sorted by a TJ? Strip and full clean on the cards for my Friday night
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....Awaiting recovery!!!!
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2014, 09:56:06 AM »

My cj had terrible sticking brakes but surely they are sorted by a TJ?

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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2014, 10:01:36 AM »

TJ's are great fun in the wet maybe the most fun you can have in a 4wd in 2wd happy happy slappy :icon_super:

Brakes are much the same as any other. Left with crud in them they will lock up and bind. Caliper service kits are easily available for about £15 iirc a new rubber seal and a clean up is all it needs

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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2014, 10:03:31 AM »

CJ through to cherokee used the same caliper IIRC, all liked to seize when not required.

muds are not designed to have good grip in the wet due to the large block size of the tread
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 10:23:00 AM »

Well the truck isn't here yet and wheel has cooked and unbound however still a definite contact so I will take advantage of the free lift then start stripping the brakes tonight

On the wheels I had to say in the dry today it was pretty much spot on and it did like a wander but that's part of the fun

I know today is a set back but for the money I paid I am over the moon and I an amazed just how quick it is compared to my old 2.5
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2014, 11:36:46 AM »

4.0 fun  :steeringwheel:
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2014, 05:13:17 PM »

I am over the moon and I an amazed just how quick it is compared to my old 2.5

4000cc against 2500cc the difference says it all.

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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2014, 05:49:55 PM »

No replacement for displacement or something like that
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2014, 07:05:14 PM »

Cheap motoring: happy days.
Nothing so far is out the norm.
Indicators; strip down and clean and should be good (worked for me)
Dodgy handling; is a bit of a tj thing; tyres are first thing to sort and  do you have any lift? IF so check your rear track bar is relocated. Without that mine used to spin me through 180s.
Caliper rebuild kits are waste of money just buy new off the bay.
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2014, 08:17:08 PM »

the caliper rebuild kits work with no problems, just take a bit of time installing the seal
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2014, 08:43:13 PM »

No lift on it and other than the tyres and the fake bucket seats its pretty standard.

It handled really well in the dry prior to breaking down and I'm beginning to think its my driving style that didn't help as have been daily in a computer controlled xkr which will go where you point it and the jeep is definitely a different beast.

I'm tackling the brakes tomorrow and giving it a look over then change I fluids and filters next week and see if it could make it down south to CF

Loving being back in a jeep!
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2014, 06:30:33 PM »

going back to the indicator thing
i had same issue and the only way to fix was a new indicator unit
according to the chap at quadratic the contact dry out (what ever the hell that means) and can't be repaired  - now that was with him selling me a new part
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2014, 07:51:52 PM »

I recon that place must have big windows, he saw you coming  :hysterical:
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2014, 09:19:08 PM »

Thanks for the advice Tim and it hasn't done it since however not been driven much with my rubbish caliper.

How much did you pay dare I ask as seen some on e blag however if they are used then surely they will suffer the same issues?
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2014, 09:26:47 AM »

The indicator switch can be stripped/cleaned/regreased (dielectric grease). I did a write up after a spring jammed in mine. I stripped and cleaned it a few years later after the indicators started acting up, and got a couple more years out of it.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/indicator-blinker-not-cancelling-switch-repair-write-up-421210/
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Re: Very very cheap TJ issues....
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2014, 02:43:47 PM »

I will be following that guide then I reckon
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