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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2010, 02:53:43 PM »




I like this idea. Found on pirate. This guy has helped himself out by lengthening the wheelbase as well though, but looking in detail at his build I think it possible to follow the exhaust line from the cat toward the driveshaft and then once past the footwell tuck over the upper arm to then be free to run to the back without a back box or if back box needed then there is plenty of space as there is no feul tank in the way for one.

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Although Warthog aint told me his idea yet so slightly scared!!!!

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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2010, 07:03:33 PM »

That will not work!!!
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2010, 08:08:21 PM »

Bugger...........what have I not spotted?

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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2010, 08:10:08 PM »

this may sound mad could you not use a cranked arm to clear
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2010, 08:29:09 PM »

would a body lift give you more options ?
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« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2010, 01:35:27 AM »

Although Warthog aint told me his idea yet so slightly scared!!!!
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Have faith Brother! It only involves a small amount of GrindR Fu. Oh and a 'ittle bit a tin massaging >:D
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2010, 10:07:51 PM »

just exit it out just forward of the rear tyre.... you would only need 1 45* bend and you can give me the rest.......
honestly it would work mate. alot better and easier than what i have planed for the monkey. where did you get the pipes anyway?
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2010, 10:50:09 PM »

Upper and lower chassis mounts complete





Belly Plate on. Sorry Mocaj, the Terraflex plate is staying for now.







Onto the Exhaust and Rear Disc brake set-up
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #84 on: July 04, 2010, 11:36:02 PM »

A few bits progressed today:

Added a bit of strength to the lower mounts on the front axle





Exhaust mock-up in pro. Once happy with it, intended to weld into sections. Its gonna need some tweeking, but it somewhere handy.









Clayt wasnt ammused with the exit pipe though! :003:



Rear disc brake conversion in pro:

2 types of mounting bracket to choose from. The SSBC brackets are the one to the right in the image below, not sure if the others are ssbc? Calipers are from something like a VW Golf 8V. Discs im unsure but investigating out of curiosity for spares.
 
I'll get some more images up at some point. This must be one of those mods, that every owner of a rear axled
Jeep with dumb brakes on would like to do?

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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2010, 07:50:50 AM »

i think this is what that rear axle needs warthog

basicly tieing the truss into the diff cover with a removable plate for when you need to take to diff cover off. it would add alittle more strength to the truss and the diff cover at the same time.
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2010, 10:19:08 AM »

i think this is what that rear axle needs warthog

basicly tieing the truss into the diff cover with a removable plate for when you need to take to diff cover off. it would add alittle more strength to the truss and the diff cover at the same time.

Once the Axles out for Paint, there maybe a bit for strength added :icon_winkle: Wont be as pretty as that though :003:
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2010, 08:53:39 PM »

ooooohhh come on we can make it sexy........... come on
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #88 on: August 03, 2010, 01:04:52 AM »

The rear disc brake conversion is a pretty much a bolt on mod. The calipers are MK3 Golf, not sure on
the discs though? Guess something jeepy anyone know?







Exhaust is done, the TJ sounds as quiet as a mouse (Boo!)







The culprit of the quietness:





Front axle pinion bearings were shot and the oil seal had also failed. So fresh bearings and oil seal
were called for

Diff cover off, remove the retaining journals. Mark up the journals and assemble exactly as you removed.


Out it comes, no spreader plate special tool needed.


Remove pinion retaining nut. This is generally a stubborn bugger.


Pinion out, here's the crush spacer that sets your bearing pre-load. Nissan Axles use these crush
spacers too. However a mod they do is to set the pre-load, then remove the crush spacer. Measure the
length of the spacer and replace it with a bush to the same length.



Remove oil seal flange:


Drift the old bearing shells out of the diff housing. KEEP THE SHIMS AND REFIT, WITH NEW SHELLS (in
bering shell)

Fit new shells

 


Pull off old inner race from pinion and refit new. I used the old crush space and some 1" 3/4 pipe to
press into place.


New bearing on pinion and a fresh crush spacer;


Place the outer bearing race into the nousing and then re-fit the oil thrower. Then onto a fresh oil
seal:





Pinion shaft in and ready for tightening. The bearing needs a rotation preload of 3-5Nm, this basically
means that the nut needs to be done up to somewhere between 240-260Nm! Bloody tight....





VIDEO OF ROLLIN TORQUE


Replace bearing journals and torque them up


Front Axle done.



Rear axle ready to chuck under:



A little extra fab to appease JJ




Axle under and brake lines etc fitted.






Asylum fitted these funky things? They give around a 2" lift but are adjustable for more.






Onto setting up the axle alignment and seeing how it all works.....


Front axle will get radius arm links sometime in the future. So at present its like a Half long arm

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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2010, 10:26:33 AM »

Anbody know what weight oil is best to run for an ARB? Also same question for a truetrac?

Cheers
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #90 on: August 04, 2010, 11:09:55 AM »

I had a convo with Detroit about this and they recommend a regular EP90 for the trutrac and the full locker. I believe Mark Gasser used to recommend a 75/140, but I have no information as to why. I know which is easier to find on a weekend, and if Detroit say EP90, that is good enough for me.
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2010, 12:02:36 PM »

Yup agree
Been running EP90 for 8 years with Lockrite and ARB........OK so far :icon_super:

I am well impressed guys.......... looking good.......... also impressed with the 'Masterclass" in axle stuff. Axle tech is my 101 at present.

You going to be ready for Kirton on August Bank Holiday?
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #92 on: August 05, 2010, 08:37:07 PM »

just grab some anti friction additive to it and youll be good to go.
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2010, 10:21:25 AM »

You going to be ready for Kirton on August Bank Holiday?

Am hoping so, got a few niggles to sort out, mostly brakes, oh and change the height of the sankey hitch as it now sits way to high!!! Doh!

There may be a trip to help JJ out this weekend so gonna be a busy prep week before!

Cheers for the replies on oil.........as I thought but good to check, thanks all  :greggmo:
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2012, 10:32:07 PM »

Holy Thread revival :icon_eek:

How have these control arms held up?, Has the truck done much rock based stuff?

Just wondering as I need to select some tube for my arms that are soon to be fit on my TJ
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Re: TJ Long Arm Project "Designed in the Pub, Built in a Shed"
« Reply #95 on: March 09, 2012, 03:56:02 PM »

Clayt has been slacking in the use of his jeep for awhile. I can remember what size tube they used but I want to say 6mil lowers is a good starting place. I over build things that i dont want to bend so I would sleeve them with something - another tube, tbar ect ect
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